But here's a quote that seems to beg a response:
People do not know what to think. People have surmised this a hoax based on a picture.
Well isn't that what we've all said that cannot be done to prove anything?Why have people already started debunking a press conference that hasn't happened yet? Isn't that what we accuse skeptics of doing that poo-poo the idea of the existence of the creature?. Why the hypocrisy? Because it's popular?
No, because the head in the freezer looks exactly like a sculpted head from a costume. Steve, you are a rational guy -- what are the chances of that happening and it not being a hoax? If the Patterson/Gimlin film showed a creature that looked exactly like a known costume, would we be talking about it now?
IN OTHER NEWS: The Atlanta Journal Constitution has a story up on their website. It's mainly a rehash of what we already know, but with some local quotes and facts added in.
Also, a UFO website called HBCC UFO Research posted a sighting report from Pennsylvania. It's an older encounter, but I thought the descriptions of obvious communication was very interesting. Have a look.
NOW THIS: The Sydney Morning Herald has a new piece up that discusses the video with "Dr. Paul Van Buren" (who was actually Witton's brother) and how that hoax casts doubt on the present festivities.
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Meldrum seems to have debunked the conference already as well there Mr.... 'Detective'
And made a very good point of this entire event....calling it 'a carnival atmosphere'.
I'll also let another one of Meldrum's quotes ring while I'm at:
'I've had interactions with Tom Biscardi [the bigfoot hunter holding the press conference] in the past, and based on that history, I would say that anything he is involved in is suspect.'
Hopefully the above will explain things just a little.
The thing is, nothing is going to be settled a day from now after that bogus press conference. The media will hype the so called DNA evidence, the scientist, etc. But it's all smoke and mirrors. I am convinced it is a hoax. Period. No longer any doubt in my mind. There is zero chance it is not. Kulls calling into those guys and kissing their butts because he thinks he has a shot at seeing the "body"- LMAO! The guy is delusional. And yet he wants us to give someone like Biscardi the benefit of the doubt. Loren has at least seen the light- too bad Kulls comes across as incredibly naive. He ain't much of a detective, that's for damn sure.
I never posted here, however I've been a long time proponent of the idea that bigfoot does exist. That said, I have a couple of remarks to share that I would like commented on. First and foremost, I've been eagerly awaiting Jeff Meldrum's take on this (which we have). He pretty much stated what I thought he would have. But I have a couple of questions:
1. I understand that many people have analyzed the intentionally leaked photo versus the costume that I'm sure has that company's pants in a twist. All the analysis suggests that the costume head and the supposed "real" bigfoot head are entirely too similar for the subject in question to be real. My question is this: which of these photo analysts is a real, professional, photo analyst which would put his or her credibility on the line in this case? Am all I'm seeing just photoshop hacks that some tools and an idea (as for my credentials, I'm a Cisco Certified network engineer along with a bunch of other Microsoft credentials). My point being that I myself have the tools to do analysis, however I would never presume to know what a person in the science of digital photography knows.
2. I can't believe that a couple of guys, no matter how brazen they seem, would throw away their careers on a hoax that's gone this far. I also wouldn't expect Tom Biscardi (despite his reputation) to go as far as to claim he touched this creature and firmly believes it's legit unless it is the real deal. All three of them are in such a pickle right now that I can't believe they're going to continue if it's truely a facade. I will stop here, however I do have some questions and/or comments about what should be happening at the press conference, and what should be done if the proper evidence isn't brought.
Anonymous, as to pt. 1 -- you have to believe your own eyes, don't you? Look at the contour of the facial structure, including the eyebrow ridges, the nose, and the coloration of the face from the nose down to the lip. Someone on the BFF even posted a picture of only the nose of each. Taking into account that they are at different angles, they look to my eye to be identical. As I said in the post -- what are the chances that these features would be simliar at all between a real living yet undocumented creature and an artists rendition of a bigfoot made into a costume? They are so low as to be laughable, at least in my opinion.
For number 2 -- Mr. Biscardi has done EXACTLY this before. He ginned up a lot of interest in the "bigfoot trapped in a cave" a few years back, even though, according to his own version of events (as I got them from a close associate) he had never met with the woman who claimed to have the body and had never seen it himself. Obviously, he is not averse to taking risks just like the one he would be taking now.
I wanted to wait until I saw responses from my last post to make another comment, however I can't contain myself when it comes to the difference between Bigfoot and other cryptids.
People have been making comments like "why wouldn't they turn if over to National Geographic or the Smithsonian?" People get all cynical when things are held from there knowledge, as if something sinister must be going on. But I would respond by asking this question: What would you do if you had an actual Bigfoot body? You know what it's worth and everybody knows what I'm saying....and if not, let me elaborate.
If you found a rare prehistoric fish off the African continent, or you found a chupacabra, what would you expect to be paid? What level of fame and fortune would you expect off of these finds? The answer is probably none, and so being you may submit them to the Smithsonian or to the National Geographic and expect little more than ice cream money and 30 seconds of fame.
Now then, when it comes to Bigfoot what do you think the payoff is? Put yourself in the place of any man who may have captured one and think what he thinks, feel what he feels. Plus you know what the payoff is: HUGE!!! But there's a payoff only if you play the game the right way. I understand skepticism, and I'm already looking at this as a hoax. I'm also looking from the eyes of two 30 year old guys who might have hit the lottery, and an older man who may actually have the bearded lady he's been looking for in his circus.
DBD:
I'm not trying to cause controversy here....the ultimate truth is we all have to wait until the press conference to see what's really going to happen.
To be honest DBD, I think that if they don't show the actual animal during the press release and only show photos their full of it. I pretty sure that if you actually have something this significant that you might be able to secure a police detail, plus who's going to steal a 500 lb plus creature (that would only happen in Oceans Eleven).
As to your second point: yeah, I know. Let's put it this way: the man has been in the bigfoot arena since 1971 (according to my data). He does seem like a huckster. But suppose these to Georgia boys listen to his show each Wednesday, and they think of him as an idol because of what they hear....they're following his propaganda and thinking this is the right way to go - they may not know any better. Sorry, the point is: just because Tom Biscardi's perpetrated hoaxes in the past doesn't mean that these boys in Georgia don't have the real thing!
I want to make one more commentary about this issue, and this goes out to anybody and everybody who believes that bigfoot MIGHT exist and pursues the actual scientific goal of finding this:
Firstly, if this is actually true then I'm suprised and exuberated over the find of a century....however, if this even smells to be a hoax....which it appears to be, then I would ask the following:
ANYBODY who has a brother, sister, uncle, aunt, etc. to please be there at the event this August 15th, (or afterward) and ask these questions:
1. What is the DNA evidence chain between the extraction of tissue from the creature to the DNA analysis lab? In other words, how do we know anybody took anything from anybody and sent it to Minnesota.
2. If the original body is not here presently, when will it be available for viewing?
3. When will other members of the scientific community be able to analyse the body?
I know that many of these questions are self evident to people in the Bigfoot realm, I'm just concerned that the media will hype it and not question it.
If this was a hoax....and really think about this...would a current police officer, with an untarnished reputation and record do something on this scale with this much publicity ?, If he was perpetrating a grand hoax??
As for Biscardi, Yes ......he has in the past backed the wrong horse !! That is undeniable, ok. Who hasn't? But think about this...Would YOU put your own head on the chopping block or released a lynch mob upon yourself if you had ANY thoughts that this was a hoax !
This would be utterly and unbelievably stupid !!!!!
Remember most of US live in glass houses too....so we really shouldn't throw stones !!
And finally for the comment about the Squatchdetective.... HE IS GOING TO PUT HIS HANDS UPON THIS CORPSE....THEN WE'LL ALL KNOW THE TRUTH !!
BE PREPARED TO EAT CROW....!!!!
Well, Anonymous, if you are so sure of things, why are you posting anonymously?
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