That's why I asked Dennis from New Jersey to submit to the excruciating ordeal that is an interview with The Blogsquatcher.. We spoke for almost 90 minutes, covering two events that happened twenty years apart. And here is part 1 for your enjoyment:
Continue to part two.
DB: Turn this on and see if it works. Hello, check check. Would you say a couple of words?
Dennis: A couple of words.
DB: (laughs) That’s good, just need to turn it up a little bit. Alright, um, well I know it’s picking me up, and it picked my wife up before so I’m going to assume it’s picking you up, so here we’ll go. Now, Dennis, we’re talking about something that happened twenty years ago, in what part of New Jersey?
Dennis: [specific place names omitted].
DB: Right. Let’s take it from the top, like, what were you doing before you knew anything was going on?
Dennis: We were actually cutting through the area to get to [place name omitted], cause that road leads within a couple miles of [place name omitted], it’s an easy shoot through, you can avoid the routine traffic and stuff. And we also did a lot of hanging out there, it was in my younger days and we would spend some time in the woods there at night and stuff like that just drinking a few beers and having a campfire. So we were familiar with the area and we knew we could save some time by taking that route so that’s what we did. I was with two other guys, and we all decided about half way through it would be a good time to take a leak before we met civilization again. A friend of mine was driving, it was a uh Isuzu trooper, I remember that because we used to say all the time, that it was four wheel drive of the year and all that stuff. So uh, cause we would take that back there and romp around as well. But anyway, we get out to take a leak, two guys head towards the front of the truck, and I’m not the type to stand next to people and do that so I took the rear of the vehicle and uh walked a few yards away from the truck, stepped up to the woodline -- not actually into it, but, I mean we were in the middle of the -- the road goes through the middle of the woods. I walked up to the treeline there and start doing my thing. Up to this point it was a normal stop, and a thumping noise began ..
DB: Uh huh.
Dennis: ..very deep. And at first it wasn’t, I didn’t really feel a strong impact the first couple of beats, and my mind started hunting around for an explanation for it. And it became faster and stronger, and in a matter of a couple of seconds I went from thinking, “what the hell is this” to thinking maybe there’s a helicopter, because it was that powerful, it built into that kind of a strength in approximately six or seven beats, it was that strong.
DB: Uh huh.
Dennis: I actually looked up in the air. Even though there was no wind, no lights or anything, from the noise I actually even looked up in the air because by that time I felt like, it was, it started in front of me, it became to where I wasn’t exactly sure where it was coming from and thought that it was above me. So I looked up and, you know, there’s no wind, no lights, and as I’m doing that I thought, nah, it’s not a helicopter anyway. Uh, I don’t know exactly how soon after that, but it was.. I’m stumblin’ here, don’t mind me, because I’m trying to do this as close to how it happened as I can, but, basically, I got this feeling that it wasn’t a machine, and there was an animal like quality to it..
DB: Uh huh!
Dennis: ..because it wasn’t, it was extremely precise, but for some reason, I thought, you know, large.. formidable, I used the word because it just struck me as, it had to be.. For one thing it had to be extremely large to make, as far as I can rationalize it, to make this type of powerful sound, because I could feel it, I could feel it, it felt like it was hitting me..
DB: Uh huh
Dennis: Inside even. Like my whole body was feeling it. What I remember most is my chest cavity feeling it.
DB: Right
Dennis: You know, large formidable animal came to mind, and I’m sitting there like, what the hell.. looking into the woods, like.. best I can say it had to be within a few yards of me for it to generate that type of a feeling. You know, that’s based on my knowledge of how things operate. That’s, it felt like it should have been right there. And uh, it was then, after the animal feelings and thoughts, it was like, you know, get out of here .. um, I was just like hit with this very unwelcome, like I shouldn’t have been there, like we stopped at a place where, we picked the wrong place to stop and it was telling me to get lost, it was like a warning that I had walked up to the wrong spot and it was telling me to leave.
DB: Right
Dennis: The sound stopped, and I think I stood there for a second or two, because I was like, uh, it was pretty surprising, and I think I was like a little dazed and confused for a second, because it was like, what the hell just happened, and then I walked away, I walked up to the other two guys and said, “Did you guys hear that?” and they said, “Yeah.” And I said, “What the hell was that,” and they were like, you know, we don’t know. We didn’t discuss any of the actual physical feelings or anything, we talked about it more like it was a sound. And as we were doing that, we were getting into the truck and leaving. And we said that, you know, we cancelled the trip up to [place name omitted] and decided that, a friend of ours was a hunter, and even though we had spent, I mean, you know, before that I was in the woods regularly for fifteen years, and never heard a thing like that, but we figured, you know what, lets go get this guy, he has more experience than us out in the woods and maybe we’ll hear it again and maybe he’ll know what it is.
DB: Well I want to be sure that we talk about the frequency of that sound, and the reason that I’m thinking about it is that I saw a Mythbusters episode where they were talking about the “brown note”, have you ever heard of that?
Dennis: Nah, well I’ve heard of it because you mentioned in a PM that I should watch that show, but prior to that I hadn’t heard of it.
DB: Well it’s a belief that some people have that there’s a certain infrasound frequency that will cause people to lose control of their bowels. And so they tested, they got out these humongous speakers and tested from say 5 to 10 Hz, and uh, and the myth was busted, nothing happened, but I noticed as I was watching the show that the frequency of the movement of the cones of the speakers made an audible sound kinda like a, uh, like a helicopter..
Dennis: Yeah that would make sense, with pushing that kind of air.
DB: Right, so you couldn’t hear the tone it was making, but you could hear the flapping of the cones. So I’m wondering, first can you kind of give an estimate of what the [rate of the] sound was..
Dennis: What I’ve done, uh, to jump ahead, the sound has bothered me over the years. Not like losing sleep bothering me, but just like, “what the hell was that?” you know..
DB: Uh huh
Dennis: Cause I never saw what did it, and that has been my biggest problem with the whole thing, is that I never saw what did it, it’s like an unexplained thing. I’ve listened to a couple of different recordings of grouse and stuff like that, they have a flap type sound that you can still hear that they make with their wings. The best I can describe it was uh.. I’m not good with the hertz and stuff like that, that’s definitely your, you know, I can tell you what I hear but I can’t explain it better than that. This was like pure bass. It had no, uh.. I couldn’t pick, you know.. I don’t remember hearing any type of a high [end] to it, it was just like pure bass. It was like I was being hit with something that was, um. I mean, you know I have a subwoofer and a stereo, stuff like that, and you can turn it up, and I had a kicker box years ago in a car, and you can feel the “thump thump thump” of the bass.
DB: Right.
Dennis: But this was similar to that, as best I can describe it, is that I was being hit by extremely strong bass sound. It was like nothing that I’ve ever heard or felt since then, and I’ve been right next to helicopters because we used to have to fly people out if there was a bad accident, and if they could still make it we would have to load them into a state police chopper, right next to it, you know, it’s landing and taking off. I’ve never heard or felt anything like it, and it was just a pure, it was like pure bass, like just, it’s the best way I can describe it.
DB: Uh huh.
Dennis: Extremely deep. I could still hear it, but it was extremely deep. And I almost think that.. I definitely felt it more than I could hear it, but there was a sound quality to it.
DB: Uh huh. And, uh, so you could feel it in your chest, and uh, while you were feeling it, were there any other feelings or sensations in your body? Like some people will talk about infrasound and they’ll say, “Well I felt .. I felt fear” or “I felt..” some people will say they’ll feel like disoriented and they want to go to sleep, and some people will say that they feel nausea. Did you have, and you mentioned a little bit about being confused, but was that confusion over, you didn’t know what you were hearing, or did you feel a little more confused than that?
Dennis: Well I didn’t, the only other feelings that went with it was fear. The confusion seemed a little more than just normal because I was, I remember like pausing after it ended, instead of walking right away like “what the hell was that, let’s get out of here,” I remember pausing right away and looking into the woods, you know, I think it was more than just wondering what it was because I could have been wondering and leaving at the same time, because it was obvious to me that the thing, you know whatever was making that noise, at least it seems as obvious as it can, that whatever was making that noise didn’t want me there.
DB: uh huh.
Dennis: But it wasn’t like a random noise, like, we didn’t pull up and just happen to hear something making noise. Whatever did it started doing it because I walked up to the trees and was standing there. For all I know, looking back on it, it didn’t know what I was about to do. Here I am reaching for something, maybe into my pockets or whatever. You know what I mean?
DB: Right.
Dennis: So, you know, I feel it was reacting to me being there, I dunno, I may be spinning around in circles here, but I felt fear, you know like, it escalates from there, because we went back again, but I definitely felt fear, and just that we shouldn’t be there, and that it was telling me to leave, and that’s what we did.
DB: yeah, and I’ve heard that same kind of statement from other people who think they’ve been near a bigfoot, or maybe they even saw the bigfoot, they say they get the mental thought that they shouldn’t be there, like that there’s something about it that’s wrong for them to even be there. Which seems like a.. you know if you walk up on a lion in the woods would the first thought you had be “well I shouldn’t be here.”
Dennis: Yeah, I would think, you know it might be, I don’t know, because you gotta figure that you’re probably dinner! (laughing)
DB: (laughs) Well, I would be thinking, “I should get out of here,” ..
Dennis: Well that’s true..
DB: ..but the thought that I shouldn’t be here, like you know I’m transgressing on something might not be the first thought that would come to my mind.
Dennis: You’re right, it would probably be, “Oh shit!” or something like that.
DB: Yeah, yeah, I can even remember, I’ve actually done this once, I saw a bear up in the Appalachian mountains here in Virginia, and instead of thinking, “Aw, crap I shouldn’t be here,” I had a camera and I started chasing the bear, because I wanted to take his picture, and then I realized, “What the hell am I doing?”
Dennis: Yeah, you’re right, because I’ve seen ‘em myself and it never hit me like that.
DB: Uh huh, well that’s a feature that may go along with these experiences, that, “I should not be here,” feeling. It’s not the first time I’ve heard it, and I think that might be an important thing for us to mark and maybe look for.
Dennis: I got it that Thursday too.
DB: Uh huh, yeah, we’ll get to that and that’s why I’m interested in what happened -- it was just Thanksgiving, right? I think it might be part of the same phenomenon, even though you didn’t hear the heavy bass thing,you know, maybe we don’t always have to hear it to get the feeling off of it. Well anyway, we haven’t finished with the story because you go back to your friend’s and you talk about it and you leave, and then you go back.
Dennis: Right, he decides that he’s gonna bring his bow with him and all kinds of knives and everything else, but none of us think about a flashlight. Which looking back on it, I almost can’t believe it, but what are you gonna do?
DB: Right.
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